Tuesday, February 07, 2006

Outraged at the Outrage at the Outrage...or something like that.

Why aren't American papers reprinting the Muhammad comics? I'm not talking about printing them to provoke intolerant muslims or even as some statement of free speech, but this has certainly reached a level beyond the initial event and is worthwhile topic of discussion. When no American is able to see these comics in a paper or on a television how are we supposed to have a debate about them? Of course they are all over the net, but many people never log on. How in the world of instant information and 24 hour news can the majority of Americans be ignorant on an important issue of free speech, censorship, and religion?

Ted Rall has a good column out: The Nanny Press and the Cartoon Controversy. As to why they haven't shown the comics:

"The cartoons didn't meet our long-held standards for not moving offensive content," said the Associated Press.

Bull----.

If these cowards were worried about offending the faithful, they wouldn't cover or quote such Muslim-bashers as Ann Coulter, Christopher Hitchens or George W. Bush. The truth is, our national nanny media is managed by cowards so terrified by the prospect of their offices being firebombed that they wallow in self-censorship.


And offers a great point here:
While the Muslim world was raging over the Danish Mohammed cartoons, Washington Post cartoonist Tom Toles received a chilling letter from the Joints Chief of Staff in reaction to his single-panel rendition of a quadriplegic veteran; if not for the nanny media's slavish refusal to run photos of the real thing, would that abstract image have shocked anyone?
Ted also mentions the European Muslim website that printed a comic of Anne Frank and Hitler in bed. They said "If it is the time to break taboos and cross all the red lines, we certainly do not want to fall behind." Hardly the same. The Muhammad cartoons broke a taboo that was set in place by religious laws of another country, the Anne Frank comic seeks to just be as offensive as possible and makes about as much sense as these depictions of Muhammad, which are truly racist. (although I admit to laughing at the Bob Ross one).

But legitimate commentary on the state of Islam (thus breaking the irrational sharia laws) is a very worthwhile goal. Ibn Warraq is their foremost critic. An apostate who prints under a pseudonym so his family won't be murdered, he has written books harshly criticizing islam and promotes secular humanism. He has a new column in Der Spiegel:

The cartoons in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten raise the most important question of our times: freedom of expression. Are we in the west going to cave into pressure from societies with a medieval mindset, or are we going to defend our most precious freedom -- freedom of expression, a freedom for which thousands of people sacrificed their lives?

A democracy cannot survive long without freedom of expression, the freedom to argue, to dissent, even to insult and offend. It is a freedom sorely lacking in the Islamic world, and without it Islam will remain unassailed in its dogmatic, fanatical, medieval fortress; ossified, totalitarian and intolerant. Without this fundamental freedom, Islam will continue to stifle thought, human rights, individuality; originality and truth.

15 Comments:

Blogger Mikhaela said...

I disagree that the Ann Frank cartoon is on a different level somehow--it's fucking horribly offensive, but why can't you acknowledge that depicting Muhammad as a terrorist could be deeply offensive or bigoted?

There is no one objective standard for what is offensive. Standards evolve and change. It used to be considered acceptable to depict racist caricatures of African Americans. Now it is rightly understood as deeply offensive. The Ann Frank caricature is calculated to be something that will deeply offend Jews and others; the Mohammed caricatures were created by the same test: "What will most offend Muslims? Aha, depicting Muhammaed as a terrorist."

same thing, really.

3:47 PM  
Blogger Matt Bors said...

"why can't you acknowledge that depicting Muhammad as a terrorist could be deeply offensive or bigoted? "

Oh, I acknowledge that. I even understand muslims being offended over these cartoons....but not to this extent. What's going on is not understandable in the least. Like I've said letters to the editor are good. Boycotting Danish goods is a little much IMO, but it's legal and peaceful.

As for the differences the Anne Frank cartoon offers no real commentary, while commenting on how Jihadist derive their beliefs does have something to say, even if someone finds it more offensive. I think it's a legitimate topic and I don't feel like I could harshly criticize islam the way I can christianity without being accused of being a racist.


Also, drawing Muhammed is a "sin" where drawing Hitler poking Anne Frank isn't. These same muslims protesting are the ones who are bigoted against Jews (I think for the most part that's a safe assumption.) and the right-wingers who are trumpeting this issue are likewise bigoted towards muslims. I'm not, so I see them all as anti-free thought hypocrites.

I'm not saying they shouldn't print the Anne Frank comic. Obviously they have the right. I don't expect any riots over it.

It's time for Islam to learn to live in the world with racists, just like you and I have, because they are making themselves look bad.

4:28 PM  
Blogger Mikhaela said...

What's going on is not going on over free speech as an abstract. It's going on due to a specific chain of events involving two sides that both wanted to stir up anger.

The Danish paper printed rightwing cartoons to piss Muslims off, but definitely didn't realize quite how pissed. Muslim hardliner clerics in Denmark took the cartoons on a Middle East roadshow along with some even crazier ones, deliberately stirring people up. More European papers joined in.

It was calculated. And saying "they shouldn't be offended" is sort of besides the point. They are offended. This is a situation where real diplomacy is called for, not an escalating cartoon and violence war from each side.

5:13 PM  
Blogger Mikhaela said...

oh, and I think the American papers would be crazy to print the cartoons, really. why escalate the war and give more excuses for violence?

5:14 PM  
Blogger Mikhaela said...

... because in the eyes of the protesters, all that matters is if a paper runs the cartoons at all. There's no tasteful way to do it, except the way PBS did it--in an image of an angry Muslim cleric showing the cartoon.

5:19 PM  
Blogger Matt Bors said...

"And saying "they shouldn't be offended" is sort of besides the point. They are offended."


Mikhaela, I didn't say that. Right above I wrote:

"I even understand muslims being offended over these cartoons....but not to this extent."

Of course there is a tasteful way to show the comics. You do it in the context of talking about what's going on and how they offended the muslim world. And you show them so people can see what they are mad about. How can people come to a conclusion about it otherwise? I know people who haven't seen them and don't use the internet...It's a strange debate for them.

Should an American paper ever print an image of Muhammad? favorable or otherwise. Should these comics one day be reprinted in a historical context?

5:40 PM  
Blogger Mikhaela said...

I don't know--we show offensive cartoons in historical context in other cases, so I guess so. Tough questions, what a mess.

And it is sort of interesting that the images probably haven't been seen by many of the protesters, though they were certainly shown to the clerics inciting the protests and riots.

5:49 PM  
Blogger Matt Bors said...

Good point about the protesters not seeing them. Amazing.

And of course print them in a historical context. Future generations can't be forbidden to see them because people were and may still be offended. This is a big event in the history of Editorial Cartooning.

6:00 PM  
Blogger Mikhaela said...

The Cartoon Wars! Good goddamn, and here I thought this was a small obscure profession. Now I have yet another reason to be worried every time I pick up my pen, apart from concerns over how well drawn or written it is.

Sigh... I'm curious, are you a fan of Johnny Ryan? Masheka is big into him and that kind of "let's offend everybody as much as possible" humor.

6:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I have to say is that Arab groups have been burning American flags for years to protest and with the attempt to cause anger. Now that someone has desicrated a muslim symbol the war is on. Kill the infidels I read on the posters of the protestors. Cut off their heads. If I did not believe before what the original publisher of this cartoon was trying to present, I must start to wonder. Besides how many christians or jews are known for strapping on bombs. Oh but maybe thats because they are not as faithful!!

8:42 PM  
Blogger Mikhaela said...

Yes, well, Bush is a faithful Christian and he was happy to kill thousands of Muslims with bombs. White Christian fundamentalists have bombed abortion clinics. Violence is not an exclusively Muslim trait by any means.

10:57 PM  
Blogger Matt Bors said...

No I don't lnike Johnny Ryan too much. Some things I've read were pretty funny, but for the most part it's literally dick and fart jokes.

8:27 AM  
Blogger Mikhaela said...

yeah, that's Johnny Ryan all right. I have mixed feelings. I did buy Masheka a huge Johnny Ryan print for Christmas, though.

12:21 PM  
Blogger Vince DC said...

Please take a look at this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1752302134548724932&q=jezus

Maybe a few of us Christians should go out there and burn down a couple of embassies...right after we stop laughing. Perhaps what makes us different from the Muslim hordes is that we have a sense of humour!

5:01 PM  
Blogger Mikhaela said...

oh please. right-wing Christians have gotten very upset over depictions of the Virgin Mary, and they went ballistic over the whole "Happy Holidays" vs. "Christmas" thing--hardly displaying a sense of humor.

And right-wing Christian Bush bombed the crap out of Iraq and killed thousands of people over imaginary WMDs.

Muslims have no monopoly on violence.

1:14 PM  

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